All Comments on 'When We Were Married Ch. 02D'

It just keeps getting worse. Why not call it a loss right here and start on something new. I mean, it's well written technically. You're just making everyone in it more and more unlikeable.

This chapter did a little bit to illustrate how they felt about each other and how their feelings are changing in the wake of their confrontation. However, I feel its getting kinda apologetic. Where's the spine the prosecutor who wouldn't back down from a death threat supposedly possesses?

And when is Debbie going to learn that walking away from a marriage and betraying her husband's trust has lasting consequences? Please don't go the way you did with The Dream Wife and The Last Goodbye. It'd ruin an otherwise very good story.

I'm looking forward to more of your writing DQS. Keep up with your writing. It gets inside your emotions like nothing else on this website. Kudos!!

Waiting has been tough. Probably checked 8 times a day for this latest installment. Excellent job, as usual. Thanks!

Ignore the cruddy comments - you are writing a great story and if someone doesn't like it, don't read it or write their own.

Keep 'em coming.

You are a great writer. I love this story. Can't wait for the next Chapter.

Rayne

...and still very good. I'm fed up of people analyzing your story and characters. I just like reading it.

This chapter is extremely good and it reveals just a bit more of the conundrums who were married to each other.

I don't really care where you go with this, it's your story, but I'd like to see him happy without her. She's been a slut for too long by her own admission, although she never fucked anybody else before the awards do.

Like a previous comment I can't wait for the next chapter. Its not about what i want to happen but what you have decided will happen. Thats what makes great fiction so adictive. I understand you will need time to write each chapter but that will not stop me from looking every day and all day.

A great story really enjoying it.

Hard to see how this is going to have a lot more chapters, but whatever you post, we'll be reading it!

My own take on this chapter: Bill's remarks about his responsibility for the marriage falling apart seem right on the money; painful but accurate and realistic.

On the other hand, Debbie is coming closer and closer to being a stereotypical "Literotica story slut"--much of what she says and does, especially in the scene with Lew, I found utterly unrealistic.

However--who cares what I think? Just keep writing the story, please!

Thanks, ohio

People don't love this, best ch. yet. At least they all seem a lot more real even if Debbie and her sexuality seems a little over the top. Hope Lew's wife isn't fucking around on him, but if she is they will pay a heavy price. Thanks and keep writing. Brian.

I've really enjoyed this story - it's definitely one of the best-written pieces on Literotica. It I could give it a 6 I would.

One minor edit that needs to be made. On page 1, the setting is Thursday July 7, 2005 -- 12:30 p.m. But a few paragraphs later: "As she slid out of her 2010 Nissan 370Z ..." How did Debbie get a car from the future? :)

You're doing a good job with character development. But, as others have mentioned, please don't turn Debbie into a slut. I'm hoping she and Bill will both continue to mature and gain better insight into themselves and each other. I'm not pushing for a reconciliation or anything, but it would be disappointing to see this story devolve into typical Loving Wives "slut wife ruins her life and loses everything" crap.

This chapter was the best yet and also the most realistic in many ways. Life moves on and so are your characters. Like them or not, they are believable and the way you have evolved them, and revealed them, remain has a consistency. An excellent job of writing!!

really it did. But I do have one BIG question for ALL of you:

IF Bill had gotten into shape like he finally did earlier in the marriage-- say 3 or 5 yeara ago... would debbie still have cheated?

Based on the way her character is developed... the ONLY answer is YES.

Debbie' is clearly focused -- too damn focused if you ask me -- about fabulous body and sex appeal.

In fact if debbie didnt have Big tits she wouldnt have any personality at all.

Yet she CONSTANTLY placed her self in situations where she was always getting sexually groped and she was always turned on.

It is obvious that Bill's neglect made this happen earlier but it still would of happened.

LEW actions however took Bill out of his dilema. Bill had to do something to stop his horrid wife but that his character would not let him do. So Lew did it for him.

I am glad that Bill reailzes that he is the job

Go back and look at some of the silly asseertions size14 shoe made about debbie.

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That she had not cheated even emotionally on Bill. That Debbie had NOT made the decision to leave bill until he became -- size 14shoes words -- a " drama queen"

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...........It had been a fantasy, but looking back she realized she'd already made the decision to leave Bill. She just hadn't been able to work up the courage to tell him the truth..........

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that we have No idea why she shaved her pussy. it might have been for Bill and that she really did want to have sex with Bill that night

from the Gym scene

DEBBIE: And about my shaved pussy. I was fantasizing about sex with Doug. I don't feel guilty for doing it. I feel so damned guilty for lying to you and trying to make you believe I did it for you. I never really felt like a lying tramp until that night.

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I like Debbie less and less. The complete shallowness that she is now displaying seems a bit out of character. I am perplexed at how she has an emotional meeting with Bill, after going through all the effort to track him down, remembering about good times with him, while at the same time looking forward getting home to her gigantic power tool that doesn't represent Bill while thinking of Bill. Your writing, as usual is top notch, and I look forward to more. cj

...grab his dick, give a blowjob, fuck him for 2 minutes and everything will be forgotten and forgiven ending.

I think it's interesting that you're stunned by people's response to this story. You may already know this, but I read somewhere that when A.Conan Doyle was writing the Sherlock Holmes stories, they were published in installment form in the STRAND magazine in London, in much the same way as this story is being presented. The Holmes stories were a sensation in Victorian England, and people apparently couldn't wait for the next installment to come out, because Doyle had the ability to create characters that came to life and that the readers cared about passionately. Being able to do that as an author is a real gift, and you certainly seem to have it. Enjoy the gift, and please keep writing.

Excellent, entertaining story. Emotional without being over the top, realistic to an extent. Hey, unlike some people I realize that this is fiction and characters in a story are never real. They are manipulated by the author's mind and are part of a reality that he or she creates.

That said, within the context of the story that you have written, this chapter cleared several things up for me. Bill and Debbie seem to have been somewhat incompatible right from the start. She says she never liked nice guys before Bill. So what made Bill different? Rescuing her from a semi-rape gangbang? I thought she liked forceful men who took what they wanted?

So even if Bill wasn't in love with his job, he would always lack something she was looking for in her sex life. Why, how was she ever in love with him? What qualities did he have back then that attracted her? We haven't had that explained enough yet.

It does seem amazing that she remained mostly faithful as long as she did given the constant lust and desire she was feeling. A highly sexed woman who wasn't totally satisfied when they were having sex and then for many years got almost none at all. So we have to give her some credit for that.

I think the thing I fault her for the most is not sharing the details of their children's sex life with him. One parent does not have the right to hide that kind of information from another no matter what the children want. They both involved felonies, the daughter's rape and the son's statuatory rape at the hand's of the girl next door(too large an age difference).

Even if he overreacted, the emotional turmoil might have been just the ticket to show his kids how much he loved them and help to bring them all closer together. Trauma which is buried does not go away. It would just fester in his daughter and might come out in dangerous, inappropriate behavior later.

The one other comment I have is the symbolism, intended or not, of Bill shaving his head just as she had shaved her pussy. Her's was an acknowledgement that her love for him was over. Is his the same?

With this much water under the bridge it is hard to see how they will ever reconcile but then stranger things have happened in other Literotica stories. Can't wait for the finish.

Even with the posting delay, this chapter exceeded my expectations. I wish you had more stories.

Each and every day, I look to see if another chapter has been posted. I know it takes time to create a story as interesting as this one, but I can't help looking forward to the next episode. I know that one day the final chapter will have been read and then I won't have this wonderful feeling of looking forward to the next chapter - BUT then you will start another story, WON'T YOU?

What exceptional writing... We think we have it all figured out and DQS leaves a hand hold to use to climb to a higher place.

I actually am beginning to like Debbie somewhat after this chapter. She went to some lengths to find Bill to apologize for the hurt he suffered reading the emails. She was brutally honest even when it was not to her apparent benefit to do so. It took reading all the emails one after the other to for her to understand that she had cheated on him, that she did intend to leave him.

It's easy to hate Debbie for what she did to Bill, but Bill is now taking responsibility for his part. Debbie is what I would call over sexed. While I can hate what she did, I can't hate her for being the way she is.

Sounds conflicting? Beginning to like her but hate what she did. It's easy for the reader to assign reasons for characters actions. If Debbie didn't tell Bill about her 'parties' because she was trying to deceive him, she is rotten. On the other hand if she didn't tell him to keep him from suffering -- no matter how misguided that would be -- she isn't as rotten.

Too bad there are shades of gray with regard to the characters because it would be so much easier to find fault and blame. As it is shaking out, there is responibility on all sides.

The Lew we saw at the meeting with Debbie was not the Lew we saw when he had his original conversation with Bill. The next story may well be when Lew finds out that Mona is fucking Norm. Then we can spend 2 or 3 days picking the story apart to find who is the blame for that. Lew may trust Mona but Debs has seen Mona out drinking and dancing. I'd bet on Mona doing the nasty on the side when Lew is on one of his 2-week trips.

Is Dougie out of the picture? Has he accomplished what he set out to do, take Debbie away from her husband? Will Debbie catch Dougie being inappropriate with Kelly? And if so, what will Bill do with this bit of news.

I only wished you had made sure that Doug got fired and lost out on everything,,,,and that they sued the college

THIS IS BY FAR, ONE OF THE BEST 3 STORYS I HAVE READ IN THE L-W SECTION. I FEEL THAT THESE TWO LOST SOULS DESERVE A CHANGE AT RECONCILIARIN, I SUE HOPE THAT IS THE ENDING YOU HVE IN MIND. KEE] U[ THE EXCELLENT WRITRIMG.

This story is a classic before it's had time to really be a classic. Where did this author come from? Is he an important member of the faculty of NFU, in addition to being involved in Florida law? Is the story based to a degree on a real life story involving Bill's eventually running for attorney general of Florida along with his Edwards who runs for Governor of Florida? In short, the story continues to be outstanding in every important respect. Already I can't wait for the next posting on the story. RAG

I find this tale to be very refreshing compared to many on this site, primarily because the characters do have faults. Even Shakespear's characters had fatal flaws. As you progress in your writing you will want to look carefully at the little details. While I am not an attorney I suspect that ex parte communication, such as what Lew had with Debbie, would force Joyce to file a bar complaint and the threat of him sending that stuff out against client's wishes would make Debbie very rich in a lawsuit. But these are such minor points. I REALLY like that Bill shaved his head. Good balance. I wonder if you have planned something happening to Debbie's looks or Bill's job to drive home their misplaced priorities. Thanks for putting yourself out there!

In Bills case, thank god for good friends.

He laid waste to Debbie at their meeting on the divorce settlement. Just like he said he would. Though Bill told him not to. In Bill's case he needs good friends and has one in Lew. Plus I am also glad that he clued our little top heavy harlot into what kind of man she lost. Bill is one of the good guys and even in her disbelief he explained that was desireable to a great percentage of the women in the world because of the man his was. Then his secretary even laid it on her and let her know there was at least 6 women in the office who where waiting in the wings to take Bill.

Debb's character developement was excellant and now we know that she really is one major bitch stuck on herself. She loves no one better than she loves herself. Bill was just a stepping stone for her. Anyway I hope in the end she does realize just what a fool she was/is.

A personal request to the author, please don't box Bill into a life of Iceman with no one to share his life with. As you have written there are a lot of women out there who would really like to get to know Bill better.

Keep up the good work, it was a littel frustrating waiting for the next installment of this saga. But well worth the wait. Plus I also believe that this story is far from over. I see no reconcilliation in the future, but I hope you give Bill a good life.

Thanks for your time and effort.

Mike

I also check for the next installment of this story every morning I am an old fellow and consider myself well read, but your serial novel is among the most spellbinding pieces of literature that I have yet encountered.

Please keep up the great work. I can't wait to see where you will take Bill next!

I hope that there is at least one more chapter, you have to let bill kick doug's ass just once. please.

The BEST story ever! Take your time, we are all eagerly waiting and there is no one that won't read the next chapter(s).

Everything Bill believed to be correct WAS CORRECT all along. Debbie is a self centered asshole who thinks every guy can be manipulated by her wiggling her tits and the whole world revolves around her twat. And everyone just walks away, Biil to his career and heavy bag, Debbie to her fantasyland where she is princess of the world, and the rest to entropy? THAT'S IT??? Story is a 5. Your ending sucks! PS I do not believe for 1 minute DQS is a guy or if he is, he is not a complete wimp: in earlier chapter author had Bill downing "a few drinks" and then heading to the gym for a workout. Just like in the title to the story, a very telling statement; any "guy" knows you just cannot go drinking and then train. Drinking right to training = no wind, nothing to train with. Training doesn't happen. Puking maybe, but not training.

Another great chapter and I enjoyed reading this very interesting chapter.

I don't know where this story is heading, but if past chapters are any measure to what is in store.

I'll be watching for the next installment.

Thanks

Has anyone else noticed how difficult Lit has made it to look at the last comment on a story? There is a tab at the right to click on and complain and maybe they will change it back to how it used to be. The last comment came up first.

Now for the story. I was thinking exactly what Ohio wrote in his comment, much as I hate to admit it. Debbie is a professor, educated, the mother of two kids and was married to a lawyer. Now she wants to suck every cock she gets near and shake her tits at everyone? She wears no bra to a rather important meeting? She admits she is hotter than any other woman on the planet and tells a lawyer she would love to blow him, and almost anything else with a dick? We are wandering into the low rent area with this wife character. She is becoming comical and stereotypical, but losing credibility as the character she is supposed to be in the story. Sometimes, one must admit the emperor has no clothes. I will be looking for the next chapter, eagerly.

whatever.

Well done DQS - you have added an excellent chapter (the best so far) to your story. I thought you might have stumbled when Kelly's friend remarked about Bill's appearance "thought you'd be younger" and then Debbie sees a guy working out that she estimates in his 20's or 30's. Factor in one shaved head and problem solved. I'll have to fall back on the "waived/waved" typo as my sole critique.

I also like how you've deepened your portrayal of Debbie. She's still guilty as hell of some serious missteps and amazingly poor judgments but you have opened the way for her "possible" maturation into a more interesting and adult character.

I have no idea where you're going with this tale but I take you at your word that the best is yet to come.

You know how to wring the emotions here! Character development is really good -- I'm believing these are real people not just a story. Keep writing; I can't wait for the next chapter!

Your story is still going strong, DQS. I won't say I like everything that happens with your characters, but they are all very real; they grab on to you. You have a lot foreshadowed, and have hinted in your notes that there is a lot more to come. I can't wait. I have been looking with anticipation every day for the last week or so since your last "chapter"; I have been rewarded richly and now will wait once more for the next one.

Riviting as always... I still look forward to our boy winning back the busty blonde!! A little romance is okay for guys too. I do believe I'll go home tonite and bang the wife silly... Till my balls hurt! Again!gotta keep it hot at home!!

First, thank you DQS for your writing - clearly you are hitting nerves with folks! <p><br>

I did find the conversation between Lew and Debra (supposedly friends) to be a bit out of character. Debra was talking like a man, i.e. crude and lewd, where I think it would have been more in character for her - a sophisticated, educated woman - to use double entendre and indirect references. <br>

On the other hand, it is clear that it is SHE who is undergoing the mid-life crisis, in which she is trying to recapture a lost youth, which DQS implies with the sudden loss of sexual control in her life. <br>

One thing I am interested in, and would hate to see overlooked, is the trial of the 'mercy killing' husband. The implication was that this would be a high profile trial, and depending on what Bill and the cops discovered, it could go one way or the other. It could be an opportunity for Bill to speak about a long-time couple so much in love that even though it placed the husband in legal jeopardy, he loved his wife so much that he would not allow her to be in abject pain with no possibility of recovery; on the other hand, he could also find that hubby had another agenda and it gives him the chance to publicly speak about people who betray their spouses, up to the point of even killing them. <br>

Finally, it is interesting that in the three months that have past thus far in this story, that Bill has spent time being introspective, trying to know himself better and to understand what he has to do and where he has to go forward. Debra doesn't seem to notice (yet) that sex is only a small part of marriage, and one would think that she would already be feeling the lack of companionship, the mutual support, all of the other aspects that two people bring to each other.

I am really enjoying this story. I like the other readers find the characters interesting because they are multi-layered. I like stories where people think, reflect, and sometimes grow. I see that in Debbie as the reality of her choices come to her. One easily sees it in Bill as he faces who he is.

The thing most interesting that they both saw themselves in a rather one dimensional black and white way, and now that they are breaking apart, they are starting to see some "depth". DQS you have done a masterful job of bringing this richness to the story.

Keep up the great work.

I like the story , characters are very good. Like the story line and cant wait for the next installment

another spouse runs around on their spouse, belittle their spouse at a major party, then takes said lover in and screws him even before the divorce is started and with the kids in the house.W HAT I SEE IS A PERSON WHO IS SO FULL OF THEMSELVES IT MAKES YOU SICK. Finally you have him with lots of people that he helped and will do anything for him even his mother in law.But his kids and all their friends seem to side with her this is to confusing for me and i don't believe you even know what you wrote in the end you got him taking the blame for their breakup, I think you should have put this one in science fiction.

Not good enough to be VERY good, because of all the rambling and repetition. . Like many longer stories, a person can write themselves into a corner, with only a lame way back.

This one is already finished, you probably know that, too. There is now no way back for them that would not sound just plain silly, and anything ahead is a different story.

In this one, initially Debbie came across as a really self-centered creature who

is super hung up on sex. Perhaps this is the result of breaking the dam but I see nothing likeable about her until she starts listening to herself and begins to see the world in a different way. Funny that listening to herself leads her to finally understand a bit more about her husband. Still after this chapter I find myself nauseated at the idea of reconciliation, but it is your story, to tell (create) Daniel and it is a great job that you are doing!

This is going to be an interesting debate-- has the wife character DEBBIE become comical almost a stereotype shallow character... Or

does she appear that way because she is in fact the one going through the midlife crisis -- as postscriptor correctly pointed out?

I am wondering if it can't be both.

I have two brothers both of which were married then and divorced and after their divorce... in their late thirties and early forties one day they decided to get a motorcycle. It was stereotypical silly and a bit comical. it lasted for about a year and now that they have grown out of it we can sit back and laugh at and family get togethers or during the holidays at the end of the year.

My point here is that sometimes the cliche a is true or at least partially true. I think that is what the author was going for by having debbie being so uncontrollably sexually aggessive in the 1st half of this chapter.

In this case it's clear that for whatever reasons...some valid some not... Debbie's sex drive has become so encompensing so overpowering that she has lost all perspective. She is simply incapable of thinking about anything but her own pussy.

Note that at the end she is oggling Bill looking thru the Gym windows-- not knowing it is Bill of course. ****8 Only by seeing him as being physically attractive does she SEE Bill as a decent person. ***

Still on theother hand It seems that now she has re-read her own emails to Doug -- TWICE-- and that Doug appears to have left her alone ( at least for a while) she may have reached the stage where she realizes the entire world does NOT revolve around her cunt and tits.

It will be interesting to see IF Debbie ever changes like Bill has.

One of the best I have read on this site as far as character build up, and plot goes. There was a large change in the tone of this chapter which perhaps made it a little disconnected from the others, but I think both sides did need to be balanced as you did. Part of me thinks you should end it here but on the other hand I would like to see more.

Thanks.

DQS, my man, you are soooooo hot!!

The dialogue between father and daughter was great. I now have a better understanding why the kids feel the way they do about their dad.

Laying out some of Debbie's inner most thougvhts and feelings clearly suggest she is reverting back to being the slut she was before she married. Its really incredible how selfabsorbed and selfish she is. I hope she is put in her place by the time this story concludes. I hope she is going through a phase of experimentation and self-indulgence after being in an unhappy marriage.

Although this story really sparks my imagination, I am going to reframe from making any further predictions. I very much agree with OHIO, this is your story, and we are just along for the ride. Thanks for sharing.

I enjoyed it but was very disappointed with Debbie. I thought she had a little more class, damn if I know why. <P>

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I am married and have two children (Two years old and six months). I also work part-time so I just love this program. It saves time and spares me a bunch of aggravation.

Boy, what a friend! He does what is right for Bill even after Bill tells him not to. And then doesn't try to hide it but tells him what he did. What a guy! If Bill can have someone like Lew admire and respect him Bill can't be the loser that he was first portrayed as.<P>

Debbie sure is looking worse all the time. A very unsympathetic look at her. I thought she was classier than that. Trying to come on to Lew, really! I loved how he shut her down. Slutty clothes except for work? She has let men fondle her over the years? And Bill rescued her from a gang rape? Damn Debbie, Bill deserves a whole lot better than you. I just loved how she got jealous when she found out the sexpot was interested in Bill. Now she is going to masturbate to images of Bill? LOL<P>

But I am still confused. She dumps Bill. She does not love Doug nor consider him a long term partner. So where is she going with this? Is a long (and somewhat poorly) repressed slut now going to screw anything she can? Pardon me for being cynical but women don't generally dump a partner without clear cut plans to upgrade. What were hers?<P>

Finally if my daughter was raped and no one told me there would be hell to pay when I found out. For all concerned. <P>

Thanks for sharing.

This is a great chapter. First, Bill is not taking the blame for the failure of the marrige. He is looking objectively at his part of the relationship and where he made mistakes. Having been married for almost thirty years, both people have to add to the relationship just as both people can destroy the relationship. Both Debbie and Bill made mistakes, they are human. Bill appears to be the one growing here and learing from his mistakes. Lew is right, Bill is making changes in his life and moving on. Debbie is not. We are seeing real depth of character from DQS in this chapter. I think seeing Bill's job as father through the kids eyes was very well done, Nice tough that--Showing not Telling. I definately want to see where this goes next.

Finally, Some of the anger and bitterness seems to have gone away. You went more into her character, her teasing men, her need to be noticed and that provided some insight. I think you are doing a good job developing Bill into a more rounded person, yet keeping him focused on his job. I do wish that you would allow her to see a bit more of what he really is like as a prosecutor, some of the dangers and problems he faces just so she would appreciate him as a man more, respect him more, or at least not show such blatant disrespect for him. Lew is what a friend should be.....great job with him, lets not see Mona go the slut, cheating wife way.....Let Lew heed Debbie's warning and nip the problem in the bud before it destroys Lew like Debbie destroyed Bill. Thanks for writing.

Might be best story I ever read on here. I think anyone reading it can see a bit of themselves in at least one of the characters.

I saw me 20yrs ago when I was a workaholic, but I saw the light and put family back in #1 priority.

Your hard work and enjoyable writing style have made it a pleasure to read your creative musings.

So, without too much smoke and sunshine, I would like to say (write);

Thank you.

BTW - I would like to buy Lew a drink, just to see the shark smile.

This was by far and away the strongest chapter so far. Lew's character is awesome; he's faithful to his wife and has integrity to what he believes, and didn't mince words when dealing with the slut or back off from his course of action. Good insight provided as to Bill's character - Lew's perspective was credible and added insight to the previous chapters, and Bill's own realization as to who he is and why he does what he does is credible. Good work!

First of all, this is one of the best stories I have ever read on this site. I must have looked for the “new chapter” twenty times or more. However, I realize that writing, especially of this caliber, takes the time that it takes so I am just glad to see it published.

As I said in a comment at the first of the story, this is your story do it your way. I am a little surprised that Debbie is becoming so slut-like. I had her pegged as being far classier. But this is your story and we all are along for the ride. Debbie and Bill will become what you make them.

Your style is so readable and you use many techniques to develop the plot and characters. I have read many “published” authors who would do well to learn from you. Once again, thank you for sharing your talent and stories. I will be looking forward to anything else that rolls out of your computer!

You are the man DQS! This is such a great story!

Debbie's turning out to be much more narcissistic than originally revealed. Revealing just how out of control her libido is, or always has been, certainly puts a new spin on things. But the essential question of why she failed to communicate her desperation and her thoughts of separation remain.

Did she communicate her needs to Bill fully and repeatedly, as she claims to have with the issue of Bill's weight gain? Did Bill completely ignore her? How did Bill respond all those times she tried to engage him? Was Bill aware of just how miserable she was, crying in her bedroom, the kids even knowing?

Did Bill turned a blind eye to all of it, blew her off when she made attempts, claimed his work took precedence over and over? If so, he deserved to be left in the dust, but not emasculated.

Glad you had Bill check in with Kelly. I look forward to Bill dealing with the little shit in the next chapter. I guess you'll have Bill check in with Billy Jr in the next installment too.

I think Bills' transformation is beginning to be a little formulaic. But I trust you'll place moderation where it belongs.

Exceptionally great story. Just please!!! if there are further chapters, do NOT let Bill become a wimp. And, please don't make the cheating wife into some kind of a martyr.

Lew is a TRUE friend, the best character. What a man!!! Every shot he struck — it went out of the park.

Every single box was ticked; nothing was left out in this chapter. A conversation between Debbie and Bill, Lew unleashed, Bill’s and Kelly’s conversation, Debbie’s realization that she did cheat on Bill — emotionally. My only problem is that — Debbie was more like a wanton whore than an educated senior professor. The scene with Lew in Joyce’s office, I mean Debbie playing her “dirty” games was uncalled for — it doesn’t suit her character.

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"They are there in black and white. They are what they are." — I think this was the best line.

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It’s such a shame that Debbie doesn’t know about Bill very well. His secretary, friends have more respect for him, and they know him well than Debbie.

Read this — "Listen to me, you stupid bitch. Bill is the best man I know, the best man I've ever known, and he deserves better than a woman who'd throw him over for a flat belly and a big dick.

"You see him as a fat, soft guy and it's obvious you don't respect him. But the people in his world, the women in his world, see him as the man who runs that office. The Big Man is a politician who likes getting his picture in the papers. Bill is the guy who makes executive decisions, who decides who moves up and who doesn't. He's the spine of that place. Any smart woman knows you get him in bed and you've got a straight shot to the top"

And this is what Cheryl said — "Debbie, I know Bill isn't -- or wasn't -- the most physically appealing guy. No eye candy for sure. But he was a really nice guy."

Really Debbie doesn’t know what she threw away.

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Someone needed to give a “wake up” call to Debbie, and BOY! Shark chewed her down. Lew’s character was like a mirror, a mirror always says the truth — it shows what’s in front of it. Lew showed Debbie the truth, — mails, emotionally cheating on Bill through mails, what a good person Bill is a how much he still love’s her.

Debbie is totally “obsessed” with herself (her body mainly) When she heard about Myra being interested in Bill — she was jealous. I think she’s going through mid-life crises — especially after the gym scene. She now knows that Bill’s getting back in shape, and that he’s in “demand” (I’m talking about Myra) Her Stud Doug isn’t responding to her calls, so she’ll have to hunt/find someone for her wanton needs or beg Doggie, sorry Dougie to come back.

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The most important question — what next? For that we’ll have to wait for the next chapter, and for that you’ll have to write & post it soon.

Don't let us wait for too long.

~Kelly~

The most enjoyable story I have read anywhere! I love your characters and look forward with pleasure to the next chapter. Always,in the back of my mind,is the hope for Bill's future happiness.

This is a great piece of writing and a great story. I sent you a private E mail with my thoughts on where this was going. I may be wrong but if I'm not It's going to be a great ending. I'm sure it'll be a great ending anyway if I'm wrong. People like that don't forget.

Thank you for writing a bit of a "pull together" chapter. I know that this is a longer piece that you are thinking of, so thank you for taking a chapter for all us fans and answering some questions.

I check every morning to see if there is a new chapter, but take the time you need to make it right. I'm always happy for new fiction, overtly erotic or otherwise, as long as its captivating.

In trying to answer lots of questions at once, I felt like you took some shortcuts with Debbie's character that made her less captivating and fleshed out as an actor in this story, but I understand why you did it and I know you said you had chapter ideas from her perspective and other stories to tell in this world.

Thanks for writing, keep doing so, I'll keep looking every morning too :)

--Me, in ME, USA

Admit I'd been waiting for this one impatiently, along with many other readers, and it was definitely worth the wait. Leave out the very few mistakes -- it was a really intense chapter.

Debbie sounds mentally ill, as in "nymphomania." Maybe she needs to get depressed, see a psychologist or psychiatrist, and then learn that she has a hormone imbalance or something, causing her to have an abnormally-high libido. It would at least excuse her behavior to some degree, as in, "It wasn't my fault. It was my hormones."

I suppose another twist could be the sudden discovery of a breast lump -- that would sure knock Debbie down a peg or three. Only a husband who loves his wife would see past a potentially-disfiguring disease and still be physically attracted to her. I don't necessarily wish this for her, but it would certainly demonstrate to her what is important in life in the long run (and what is fleeting and less important).

Bill observed in an earlier chapter that he maintained his love, his physical attraction, and his interest in Debbie when she was fat, flabby, and out of shape due to her pregnancies. But Debbie can't reciprocate, it seems, when Bill's sacrifice for his job (and family) results in his body becoming less physically attractive. Shallow would be a euphemistic description of her character, I would think.

Bill has had a life-changing event (his wife betraying him and divorcing him) and he is changing as a result. This is the "testing of the hero." Debbie needs to change too, hopefully into a better person (or most of the readers will just keep hating her).

I don't want to see a reconciliation between Bill and Debbie -- but as others have pointed out, it is not my story. At least, should it happen, there must be convincing and sufficient changes in Debbie's character that she would be worth having once again. And Bill must be secure again in his masculinity, which means he must bed one or more of the ladies offering to put out for him, and he needs to teach Doug a good lesson, preferably a physical one. Please don't make us wait too long for the next part!

Ok, this was a great story and I bookmarked your page on my web browser to follow it. I'm getting a little concerned here though. First of all, it's pretty obvious Debbie is a selfish bitch and she's going further and further. She was bitching Will was always at his job and was getting fat. Well, to be thin Will would have to be spending time at the gym instead of home. Also, 3 months is not enough time for Will to be "getting over" the love of his life cheating on him and throwing him away. These are hard people. They're not free love hippies.

Either someone in this story is putting on a happy face and is about to do something diabolical or the writer is falling into the trap of putting his own hopeful view of the world into unnatural actions in his characters. The characters are their own persons and have to behave how they would behave - not how the writer wishes people would be. If you can't let the characters be who they are, then you are trying to control something painful you went through via your writing. That doesn't work.

I'm getting a little concerned how this is going to end..... Stay true to the characters.

What this chapter did more me is to dislike Debbie more if that is possible think about what kind of woman goes to man that she spent 20 years of her life to apologize for cheating on him and than goes home and masturbates. She thinks her shit don't stink and she can get any man she wants. she still needs a realty check.

....has been written into a bizarre cliche.But unlike Ohio, I found the interaction with Lew the screw somewhat realistic, except for the statement about Lew and Bill being the smartest men she knew. And what college does she teach at? And she wasn't sorry that she discussed intimate details of her sex life to a colleague? I'd fucking hang my (common-law) wife of 18 years if she did that. But nothing on that from Bill? If anything unrealistic about this, Ohio,HDK it is that missing interdiction! But through the mind and eyes of Debby this author is writing ALL women into stupid cock worshiping fools.That is why I don't think this that great a chapter, as viable storytelling goes, though the average singed male reader is going to love it. It was a fun read, and like all the "singed"-(if you live you have not yet been "burned")-I will enjoy seeing Bill finish her "enlightenment" with a pleasant pounding of dougie boy. I would also enjoy seeing Bill explain to kids and others how the way they dealt with the rape, son's neighbor sex etc. was wrong on so many fucking levels, not the least of which psychological. Does mom want Kelly to think herself mainly a sex object too? And Harry, do you take back your comments about DQS from Matt the doormats latest offering,(which were fucking inane, as was the story)-since you think this was so good?!!! I wish my i-net connection weren't fried because I won't be able to respond to anything on a timely basis and I'm missing a chance to disabuse so many of their mistaken beliefs!!!Lastly, to the author, if you paint the woman to be THAT hot, (i.e., hotter than anyone actually COULD be) you concurrently are painting men to all be dogs. MAYBE most are. But not the ones with self esteem. Like wise, women with self esteem are not usually very cock-hungry. And why would they be. Men are usually ugly. We're lucky to get fucked period. Or rather you guys are lucky.(lol-sort of). Maybe some exposition of where Debby's pathetic lack of self esteem came from is in order. As well as the illumination of her future as an aging beauty.Thanks for writing.

is a slut.

Debby was a slut before bill and she said she really always even after Bill and her net she was just a faithful wife to Bill and put her slut on the back burner until she got bored with the faithful wife gig.

As for Bill finally winning one against Dougie, He won the first one as Dougie punched Bills lights, but Bill kept getting up and finally was able to walk off the floor and Dougie had to be helped off the floor.

As for the tactics Bill used in that fight, there is no FAIR rules in a fight except to win. If you get someone on the ground you put the boots to them and make sure they dint get back up or you will probably get your ass kicked.

Thanks for this chapter as it had much more information in it, and I finally got my fix.

When I read your chapters I look for the teases about what may be coming in future chapters. This chapter answered six of the teases I had seen, just the way I had thought I would have handled them and six others you took in other interesting direction.

I look forward to more.

Its a good story going good wid main character, but feel ur side tracked again, hoped u don't end it like ur last good bye story,hope to see our hero to move on n selfish bitch get her share of pain as wel

...into a bizarre cliche. Beyond mere caricature due to her profession. And to the extent that the author has done this he has responded to the stupid idiot readers and not his own storyline.This was not the best chapter, merely the one that satisfied readers the most.Unlike Ohio, I thought the interaction with Lew the screw was fairly believable, except for the part about how she thought Bill and Lew were the smartest men she knew. And she teaches at what college? (P.S. 90, maybe?). The most unbelievable thing in this chapter was that Bill never fucking went to town on her for exposing intimate details of their sex life to a fucking colleague.I'd hang my (common-law) wife of 18 years (what a coincidence) if she did that. Nothing from Bill though. If the author continues to paint deb this way, and thru her eyes, paint all women as cock-hungry sluts, then he is consequently painting all men as pussy crazed dogs. Maybe those with no self esteem or brains are, but this story is still much better than that. Will Bill ever let his "family" know how wrong on so many levels they were to deal with the rape and neighbors sexploits the way they did, or does deb want daughter to see herself as a sex object also? Will the roots of debs self abasement come to light? Will Harry take back his statements to DQS posted after Matt the doormat's latest (inane) offering? (I wouldn't!) Will my fucking internet serviced come back on so I don't have to park in front of the library like some hopeful pedophile to write this? And so I can respond to the first faggot anon or curiass type that hits a web-less man?

The first part of this chapter was enough to turn me off for the entire story. To wait this long for so little information was disappointing. Some might applaud your character development, but by the time you give up thousands of words to describe the thousands of facets of each person's character, I will have forgotten what the story was originally about. The author is obviously very talented, but I would prefer they just write the story and not do so much embellishment. I am disappointed in myself for checking every day for a new chapter in this story. I will do a better job of refraining in the future.

Now that you've revealed her "inner thoughts" we KNOW she is a slut in the making.

Leave her wishing she had been smarter and loyal.

by the Monday Morning quarterbacks are almost as entertaining as your story. Please continue your story as you have it planned and don't worry about them as they will drag their soap box around to the next audience that will listen to them. WETAPA is the only other author that in enjoy reading as much as you.

I gave you a five, only because - you write well! You show her beginning to have remorse and then have slut thoughts about Lew and younger guys, she's a horny slut who was having a hell of a time being faithful. Sure, Bill was always away, out of shape but guess what...you gave us enough about her lust, desire and excitement of having all men try her on, she loves it and always has!!!

Divorce them, let her go dancing and sleep around, she wouldn't suddenly realize what a great catch Bill was and decide to remain faithful for the occasional sex...hell no, she's a hot horny bitch and that's okay...as long as she is free and open to do it.

Give Bill a life, not necessarily a girfriend or a bunch of them but a life that he can begin to feel whole again. He's intelligent, the woman he worshipped was just a figment of his imagination, a fantasy, a dream, she wasn't real, he had her for awhile, he thought but now - his tomorrows would be interesting. Have him get into Politics or start a Law Firm, get partners, delegate authority and begin to take time off, travel, date, have fun, have a life...she'll suddenly grow weary, wrinkled, old and used...you know that and so do we...life's a Bitch - Yes she is!!!

Great story. I still hope Debbie and Bill get back together. I know it would be difficult for them to reconcile, but it would be sad to throw away those eighteen years of marriage.

You almost seemed to have ended it at the "Goodbye." I suspect Bill will want to keep the slut wife around as a fuck buddy after the anger has subsided. I hope he doesn't sink that low, as it would make the slut wife believe she's still got a sexual hold over him. Ya know, most successful people, men and women alike, tend to focus on their calling and not personal relationships. A true partner accepts and supports, and does not become jealous of their partners "calling." It almost becomes a "menage a threesome" - husband, wife, and "calling." The "calling" is something more than just a job to the person who performs it. Even if society and their peers perceives it as only a job. When the "calling" is mundane then the accusation is "spends to much time at work." When the calling is altruistic it is then perceived and touted as noble. Unfortunately people with a calling can't always choose what it is, and can't turn it on and off at will. Since Bill's calling is noble, she should have sucked it up and supported him intellectually and emotionally, and taken pride in his accomplishments, rather than her tits. Sexual boredom is easily remedied at home, and if she weren't a closet slut that was the direction she would have taken.

The story really moved forward in this chapter. The negotiation with Lew was excellent. I was wondering how you would get around Bill's reluctance to go for the throat. You had his friend stand in for him. Very nicely done. You also played out the interaction bit by bit but it didn't feel tedious. Lew was playing with her like a cat does a mouse. He had her before he walked in the door but she didn't know it. In addition to winning the legal point he forced her to confront her behavior in total. She couldn't hide from the truth any longer. Very powerful. <br>

One thing I am unsure of. You are playing Bill's responsibility for the breakup of the marriage as him being an absent husband. In this chapter he says that he probably isn't cut out for marriage. However, many successful people are very absorbed in their careers. It's the cost paid in some efforts. And many such men (or women) have their spouses standing right beside them. The spouse KNOWS the kinds of demands and that their hubby isn't going to be home at 6 for dinner. They just don't live that kind of life. And the right wife is OK with that. They understand and are even proud of their husbands. The problem is that Debbie is not the right wife. She is incredibly vain and self centered. She is always mentally playing the men in her life sexually. She is very high maintenance and he is not the kind of guy that will provide the attention she needs. They really don't belong together but she is too self absorbed to provide a respectful end to the marriage. She disrespects Bill and it shows. He doesn't deserve the disrespect. There is really no blame for them getting together and being mismatched. He didn't realize how involved with his job he would be. That is very common. As he grew into it, it evolved and pulled him in. His commitment wasn't vain or selfish. He was going an important job and brought unique qualifications to the job. They are just at the point now that he is recognizing how his job is so much a part of him. Debbie is starting to get a glimpse of it but is still kind of clueless. It seems like they have parted by saying 'Goodbye' and it feels like the right ending. So where do you go from here? It's a really good story so far.

Debbie reminds me of the statement that used to be seen on teeny-bopper's T-shirts - "It's all about me". Sure she has brains, but the beauty side has made life easy for her.

I think the line "You see him as a fat, soft guy and it's obvious you don't respect him." Lew used to her nailed it.

An excellent story, which has me checking every day for the next chapter. I'd love a daily installment, what can I say, I like instant gratification! But, this story is worth the wait.

DQS1, thank-you for your efforts.

She's at an age and acting in such a way, it's all about to blow up in her face. She got to a stage in her life she thought she'd give it one last go, and handled it all wrong. Great story, wonderful stuff...Mancelt.

All of us should be so lucky to have a friend like Lew. I do hope that Mona is not cheating with Norman. First because Lew has such faith in her and second because I don't want Lew to go to jail. That shark would certainly bite them in the ass.

Debbie's becoming something less the women you introduced us too. Bill has resigned himself to being alone. Don't know how a reconciliation would work or be believed but I would like a happy ending please.

Thanks for your hard work, Now get back to the computer.

I loved the chapter. Lew was a shark and the meeting between him and Debbie was maybe one of the best scenes I've read here. So much was going on in it. Her lust for him. (she really does seem to have the libido of an eighteen year old boy, on steroids, if this is the way she feels all the time, it's a wonder the marriage lasted as long as it did) His friendship to Bill. His willingness to go for victory at all cost. Great job. I have no idea where you are going and I think that's great. I do hope Bill gets to nail the secretary though. This is a fun ride.

I was mildly disappointed in this entry. I did not expect the wife to become someone who doesn't deserve him so clearly. She was too self aware of what she was doing. The getting felt up and dirty dancing was a bit much. I had expected her to be aware of her power over men, but not that she was acting like a tramp behind his back. She was already unworthy, as was shown in the e-mails. This didn't add much.

Previously I wondered how it was going to unfold. Now I wonder what is left. Now, the story needs a conclusion where she realizes that she is the unworthy one, and doomed to live miserably ever after. And that Myra is serious.

But besides that I can't see much more that needs to be said.

That said, DQS is a great writer, and it is a great story. Am looking forward to the next chapter.

Maybe someone has already said this, in one of the many comments. One thing for sure, Mona is cheating with Norm. At least I was able to make this connection from the other story of this auther "The Last Goodbye". The names do match :)

Author - this chapter was well done and engaging. It was refreshing to see the next installment finally come out so we do not have to read all the irrelevant bullshit from the "dick-less wonder - size guy". That idiot is as lame as the cock-hungry slut Debbie. Both size guy & the character Debbie are trying to impress somebody and it is not working at all. It was insightful to see Debbie could think of hardly anything else except about getting pounded by Lew and any other young cub. You know her true self-centered vain personality comes into play when she is hitting upon her ex-husband's divorce attorney. Lew's character development was also done very well. Thank you author for a chapter. Debra & Wayne

I assume this story is going in a reconciliation direction, because if they were going their separate ways, this would be a good point to end it, and you say the story is far from over.

If that's the case, you have to keep a balancing act, where neither of the main characters becomes a cliche or cardboard cutout. Right now, the problem is Debbie. She's turning into an over the top "shameless slut" cliche. The way out I think is to have her go through some major maturation and changes in her life. The husband has seen this divorce as a wake up call to shake up his life, and now Debbie needs to do the same. Hopefully, she's going through a midlife crisis without really realizing it yet, and that is taking her focus on her sex appeal to absurd levels as she worries about aging and so forth, and she'll be able to come down from that.

So, in short, I'd like to see this story focus more on Debbie for a while, because she's got a lot of issues to sort out. And by the way, I'm still very pissed at how she denigrated him in the last chapter, telling him the only way he could have sex was to pay for it, etc... I hope those comments aren't forgotten, and that there's eventual consequences from them.

Everyone seemed to have liked this chapter, but me. If anything, I despise the Debby character even more. She seems to be a dim-witted, vindictive Slut. And to blame Bill for putting his job first is just too cliched. SOME jobs, have to come first! Who wants a Surgeon, Pilot, Attorney, Clergy, or Engineman with their eyes on the clock?

I think that Bill's statement to Debbie that there would not be another Mrs. Maitland may well hold true. However, he'll probably have a couple of women as close friends in the continuing story. In this regard, I see Bill and Debbie as working together to guide their children through their teens, but from this chapter I don't see Bill taking a 2nd chance with Debbie as a wife. There would have to be a lot of counseling for this to be ever be possible. I also get the feeling from the story that Jessica Stephens is going to be his close colleague both at the courthouse and main support in his bid to become state attorney general. Jessica may also become Bill's lady as they seemed quite compatible in their after work night out at O'Brien's. RAG

You are keeping me confused about Debbie. She seemed to be pretty much a heartless witch in the first chapters, utterly destroying Bill without any hint of guilt or compassion. In this chapter we begin to see the "slut" within, the teasing of men and emotional cheating and lying. But...problem is at the same time we see a bit of guilt over how she lied and had a secret life behind Bill's back. Soooo.....not sure where you are going with Debbie, nor Mona. She just seems so over the top when it comes to acting slutty. My husband and I like where you are taking Bill, and Lew is special. We worry about Mona, but maybe you are going to bring Joyce into Lew's life if Mona turns out to be a cheater like Debbie. Anyway, this was a good chapter. Thanks, Linda & Gary

I really like this story. Don't worry about the time between chapters. If that's what it takes to create a really great story. So be it. Thanks for writing and posting it here

Your female characters suck both figuratively and literally. I feel sorry for you, evidently you have never been exposed to any women of substance. A friend of mine said I had to read your story; it’s the next Back to Bristol. Naw! To paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen, you’re no Garyapb.

A nice meaty installment. Lew is the man. I'm hoping that what debbie said about Mona is just her projecting her own sluttiness onto mona and an attempt to get lew off balance. If Mona is cheating I'd like to see lew scorch the earth and then go into practice with Bill.

I think there is a set up going on here for Bill to become the protector for Debbie or his daughter from an enraged and mental Doug. I really think Debbbie's mother's prediction will come true...but too little too late for reconciliation.

Debbie is starting to wake up and the fact that she was using a dildo while thinking about Bill is an indication of that. I think Debbie might so something like call out Bill's name during sex with Doug.

There are so many possiblities in this story. I love it. I can't wait for the next installment.

I'm speaking specifically about Debbie's thoughts, as DQS revealed them. Not about her affair with Doug.. JUST her thoughts...

There are at least 40 comments on this chapter alone calling Debbie a slut. She had an emotional affair, and she allowed other men to touch her from time to time. That makes her a slut? Apply the same behavior to a man, what's he called?

Normal.

Debbie is over sexed? She has a high libido. Apply that to a man, what's it called then?

Normal.

Debbie has a hormonal imbalance because she has a high sex drive? Apply that to a man and what's it called?

Normal.

By the consensus of these comments, any woman who has a high sex drive, sees appealing men and thinks about what sex with them would be like, and occasionally engages in petting is a slut.

What is a man called when he does the above? Normal.

Double Standards! I cry foul! Find another word or make it apply across the board gentlemen!

I think Debbie was pretty much revealed for what she is in this chapter, particularly in the dialog with Lew. What was telling about that scene to me, is that Debbie really didn't care what he said to her, or what ultimate truths were revealed. Her thoughts tell us that she has always been attracted to the bad guys that treat her like crap and Bill is the first "nice guy" she ever fell for.

No doubt she is going to get into trouble in future chapters and Bill will ride to her rescue because that is just what he does. I hope he does not get back together with her, because she simply does not deserve him. Not that he is perfect, but she is less so, other than having a great body and being good looking. That is something that will not last and I hope the story brings that out in spades. Some women are beautiful and are still nice people, some are in love with themselves and not much of a person to be around on a full time basis.

DQS,

I HOPE this is not THE END.

Kudos! Great writing. B watching for 02E.

xtremedd

Grumpy stop SPINNING... focus on what Happened.

This comment of yours really shows us that you a TRUE inbecile:

......."By the consensus of these comments, any woman who has a high sex drive, sees appealing men and thinks about what sex with them would be like, and occasionally engages in petting is a slut...."

that isnt what happened you asshole. Not even close.

This is NOT a HIGH sex drive:

A well educated mature college professor goes up to oppposing counsel dress in sexually suggestive manner ... shaking her ass and tits... offers to give him a BK and says right to their face ... hey lets fuck...

is out of control. if you think THAT behavior would be viewd as Normal if debbie was Man then you sir are an idiot.

whats makes her a slut is that she has ended a marriage and place her career in SERIOUS jepoardy for some Cock.

but you think when men does this is doesnt blow up in theor favce BECUASE they are men ?

tell me dummy have you ever hear of Bill clinton? John Edwards?

Ted Kennedy ? larry Craig? newt Gingrich? Gov Sanford formerly of SC ? Gary hart?

dude what planet are Living on????

I think the harshest realization for Debbie is going to be when she comes to understand that Bill loved her and not just the window dressing while all the other men she's attracted to just want her for sex.

Its also going to drive her crazy with jealousy when Bill is finally free and all the women come out of the woodwork to try to date him.

I don't think Lew is done yet with standing up for Bill. He's going to stir the pot some more.

men are accused of thinking with their cocks by women, but clearly you have portrayed Debbie as woman thinking only with her pussy. I am not being delicate about this because I do think many men behave badly around women when their brain lies between their legs. Maybe that is why when a woman does it - and it is not normal to who ever said that - we react badly because we do not want to think of women that way. I like that Bill is beginning to understand that while their problem was not just hers, that in fact, she can take much more responsibility for it; that is as soon as she grows up a little more to do so. I did not like her at the beginning of the chapter: you really let us into her head. And what I saw was predetory and arrogant. AND OMG selfish. Teenager selfish. She was the center of the universe as you portrayed her. She used Bill and more so as she got deeper into her mid-life "crisis". Bill's marriage crisis set his off. Interestingly, his solution was more mature and grownup. I am also interested in the idea that such an educated and sophiticated woman in such a public position was able to mask her lust so well, even from her husband. I do believe that is possible, but I would like to see an explanation of it. Again, I worry about the good writer syndrome. You have made her despicable, almost unredeemable. IF you have reonciliation in mind, you are going to have to be quite the writer to bring them back together. By the way, I think these comments have turned into a writer's club. All of us out here reading this great story, reacting, and throwing out feeling and suggestions. Keep up the good work!

Well Bill certainly has a great friend in Lew. He is good at what he does. Story is well written and extremely interesting. Sounds like Bill will make a better effort to reconnect with his kids and at least he is on speaking terms with Debbie. I don't really care much for Debbie, especially the way she was in those emails for six months with Doug (Lance). I have no hard feelings towards him as he was only trying to score but with Debbie she appears to always trying to dress and looking to see if guys were checking her out. She as much admitted to that to Lew in their meeting. Anyway, great story and want to thank you for sharing it with us.

Debbie's character does slip into the cartoonish slut range in this chapter.

But it also brings up the idea of an extremely attractive, and certainly accomplished woman who, at the most basic level, got her validation from how men responded to her looks and sexual desireablility. Her actions were certainly sleazy and shallow as she acted out her betrayal, not just with Doug but with all the other guys she let rub her tits or grind their cocks into her crotch.

To me, if she were a real life person, I would cut her some slack(though not if she were MY wife). Her husband put her and his kids a distant second place to his job. No one signs up to be ignored when they get married.

Grumpy is a middle aged feminist about the same age as Hillery, Bill's Clinton.

Hay grumpy, did you ever hear the term's prick, bastard, cuckold, pedophile, lecher, cradle robber, dirty old man, and cock sucker?

All are terms used in the place of slut for the male of the species.

Hay Harry:I lust had an epiphany. I think Grumpy may be married to size14shoe as they seem to think so much alike.

While the story is sometimes riveting, and Bill is the kind of guy we all root for, Debbie is just all over the map.

1. She is supposed to be a good and selfless mother but in this chapter it is hard to believe she thinks of anything but mindless sex.

2. She stayed loyal for 20 years but was a tease and in this chapter she sees Doug as a fuck toy and pounds herself with a dildo thinking of college aged boys.

3. She is upset and cries at Bill reading and knowing about her emails but is coldly cruel to him when she announces repeatedly that she does not love him, feels no guilt over her feelings and writing them into the emails, looks at Bill as a flabby idiot, and walks into the gym with wet snatch at the thought of some random guy working out.

3. Her scene with Lew, a family friend, as she degradingly describes Bill only in physical terms and tries to seduce him, is just completely out of character, even in light of the above.

Bill is a somewhat coherent, flawed guy but his wife is a construct of a completely sex crazed slut wife who somehow was loyal to Bill and even cried when she missed him due to his putting the career first. She is becoming nonsensical contradictions.

She had always engaged in slutty behavior behind her husband's back. I sure hope you don't ruin a great story by having him reconcile with her.

Bill definitely needs to, physically, kick Doug's ass, but it would be more fitting to have him put a serious move on Bill's underage daughter, sufficient to allow him to be prosecuted by by Bill's star assistant, convicted, and sent to prison. But, it's your story and it has been a damned good one so far!

HDK and others,

Please note that Lew was not just Bill's attorney he was also his best friend and had been for a very long time. Debbie complained about his using Lew because THEY -- Debbie and Lew -- were good friends. The conversation took place "off the record" without Debbie's attorney present. Whatever Debbie did or said in the private conference was not interaction with Lew as an attorney. Debbie does enough to disgust the readership without making shit up to make her look even worse than she already is.

Lew is playing a role in that private conversation and pulling out all the stops to convince Debbie he would use the emails as Bill's friend to fuck her good if she didn't give up the maintenance she was seeking. What we don't know is what Debbie was up to with her flaunting her sexiness with Lew. I'll bet dollars to donuts what we saw wasn't what we were getting.

We do know that Debbie was not in a friendly mood going into that meeting. She is freshly reminded of Bill's in her eyes damaging her career and income potential and all the anger associated with that. She may have in her state of smoldering anger wanted to send a "message" to Bill, to inflict a little pain with what was likely an exagerated reporting of her behavior with men at parties and out to dinner and dancing etc. That shit goes on when marriages break up.

Good people sometimes do bad things and bad people sometimes do good things. Doing or saying some bad things does not make someone bad. Citing evidence of someone doing a bad thing or things does not "prove" that someone is bad, either.

To Vietvet:

GrumpyGamby is not my wife! I've been hitting on her for several years but so far I haven't gotten to first base much less convince her to marry me. I do admire her courage in posting an unpopular point of view, knowing it would invoke some rude comments.